The Monarchy

[flyin'irie]

Originally Posted by FATHER TED2

also the cocept of royalty baffles me...........go back far enough and there must have been a time with no royalty.....then all of a sudden one family says right we got an idea....we're gonna live off the rest of you in luxury...not do a single days work in our lives and whats more when we walk into a room, you're all going to stand up and sing a song in our honour, oh and by the way cross us and you may well be executed............and the other familys said "great idea" i'll never get my head round that

I'm not British so I hope you guys don't mind me commenting on the subject.

Although it's certainly a bit more complicated than the way you present it, I agree with you Father. The notion of merit or reward for hard work [I mean REAL work] seem to be absent from the principle of royalty.
Example:
The Prince's military flying lessons...
Because the young lad wanted to learn how to fly choppers, and because learning to fly is part of the family tradition, he was granted flying lessons... payed for by the RAF ... I invite anyone who want to inquire about the cost of 1 flying hour on a turbine helicopter...
All the professionals who choose this job would normally undergo a very severe selection process in order for the RAF to make sure that the successful candidates have the right mindset and skills that enable them comply with the standard training curriculum without needing extra [very expensive] lessons.
In the meantime, British Aircrafts simply crash on the battle field for stupid reasons like poor maintenance due to tight budget... People died... That's where the joke stops to be funny...

[kate13]

Originally Posted by flyin'irie

I'm not British so I hope you guys don't mind me commenting on the subject.

Although it's certainly a bit more complicated than the way you present it, I agree with you Father. The notion of merit or reward for hard work [I mean REAL work] seem to be absent from the principle of royalty.
Example:
The Prince's military flying lessons...
Because the young lad wanted to learn how to fly choppers, and because learning to fly is part of the family tradition, he was granted flying lessons... payed for by the RAF ... I invite anyone who want to inquire about the cost of 1 flying hour on a turbine helicopter...
All the professionals who choose this job would normally undergo a very severe selection process in order for the RAF to make sure that the successful candidates have the right mindset and skills that enable them comply with the standard training curriculum without needing extra [very expensive] lessons.
In the meantime, British Aircrafts simply crash on the battle field for stupid reasons like poor maintenance due to tight budget... People died... That's where the joke stops to be funny...

I'm sure what your going on about, they are professionals Prince William in the RAF he's in Anglesey training as a search and rescue pilot and Prince Andrew flew in the Falklands War.

[rhondda rudie]

Originally Posted by kate13

I'm sure what your going on about, they are professionals Prince William in the RAF he's in Anglesey training as a search and rescue pilot and Prince Andrew flew in the Falklands War.

While I applaud Prince William's desire to be a search and rescue pilot,Kathie,his GCSE results would have meant that he would have not got anywhwere near a helicopter pilot's job if he wasn't a member of the royal family.

[NUB40]

They both come over to Shawbury quite regular and it costs a bloody fortune

Then theres the time i think it was William ?? had permission to go by helicopter to visit his girlfriend or something

[kate13]

Originally Posted by rhondda rudie

While I applaud Prince William's desire to be a search and rescue pilot,Kathie,his GCSE results would have meant that he would have not got anywhwere near a helicopter pilot's job if he wasn't a member of the royal family.

Aye be nice if you get stuck up a mountain or in the Irish sea, you could get him picking you up....Yeep him being a member of the royal family has opened doors, But if you were in his positition you've have the same doors opened.

I was watching the series on the Queen the other week on telly, it was eye opening, you know, the Queen wanted Sanctions on SA along time before the sanctions got put on SA by the politicans...No she's not perfect, but i'd rather like with them, than without them.

[anant_shah94]

Remember that the queen still plays a role in approving bills attempting to be passed by parliament, if she says no, they're not passed.

This could be useful if *somehow* the BNP got into power and by some horrendous luck their bills got through Lords and Commons, the queen would be the last one who could stop it from being passed.

[rhondda rudie]

Originally Posted by kate13

Aye be nice if you get stuck up a mountain or in the Irish sea, you could get him picking you up....Yeep him being a member of the royal family has opened doors, But if you were in his positition you've have the same doors opened.

I was watching the series on the Queen the other week on telly, it was eye opening, you know, the Queen wanted Sanctions on SA along time before the sanctions got put on SA by the politicans...No she's not perfect, but i'd rather like with them, than without them.

That's just my point Kathie.He should go through the same selection process as everyone else.His royal status should be neither an advantage or disadvantage.Talking of royal military careers I remember the 60th anniversery celebration of the D-day landings in 2004.Veterans lined up to meet Prince Charles.These real heroes,who saved Europe from fascism,were standing there sporting one or two medals when Prince Charles was standing there wearing a curtain rail full.What sort of message does that send out about the class system in this country.

[Lilia Urrutia]

Then theres the time i think it was William ?? had permission to go by helicopter to visit his girlfriend or something

No way!!! Wow, must be nice...

[kate13]

Originally Posted by anant_shah94

Remember that the queen still plays a role in approving bills attempting to be passed by parliament, if she says no, they're not passed.

This could be useful if *somehow* the BNP got into power and by some horrendous luck their bills got through Lords and Commons, the queen would be the last one who could stop it from being passed.

True Anant she is the last stand in someways, alot of her powers have been taken from her, i think anything like that happening and the BNP got into power she can call for a hung parliament so no party's actually in power, I'm not sure whether she can disolve parliament though, unless something really drastic happened to the country.

[kate13]

Originally Posted by rhondda rudie

That's just my point Kathie.He should go through the same selection process as everyone else.His royal status should be neither an advantage or disadvantage.Talking of royal military careers I remember the 60th anniversery celebration of the D-day landings in 2004.Veterans lined up to meet Prince Charles.These real heroes,who saved Europe from fascism,were standing there sporting one or two medals when Prince Charles was standing there wearing a curtain rail full.What sort of message does that send out about the class system in this country.

Hang on, those oldies our grandparents yeah the fought against fascism.
Those oldies fought for Queen & Country, i'm sure those same oldies started booing Brown or someone in Normandy the other year...It the politicans who treat our pensioners like shit not the Queen.

I'm with Anant here, if the Queen wasn't the lastline in power and we lived in a republic you've got more chance of another hilter happeniing.