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[rhondda rudie]

This article is from today's Independent.I know JB reads the Indy so he's probably seen it but thought you might enjoy it Fi.Matthew Norman: What world are the Republicans living in? - Matthew Norman - Commentators - The Independent

[San Diego]

he has managed to succinctly synopsize, what we've been suffering through for months and many more to come!!!!!

now, didn't I tell you two weeks ago that Cain and perry would falter and that Newt would be their next "darling"? Newt is now tied in the Polls with Romney....I'm tellin ya, they can't and won't get past his religion. They'd rather have a known liar, cheat and old crony in the White House than a mormon. If Newt keeps rising and garners their nomination, it'll be a kill for Obama in 2012....((just call me Mystic Meg))

[rhondda rudie]

Originally Posted by San Diego

he has managed to succinctly synopsize, what we've been suffering through for months and many more to come!!!!!

now, didn't I tell you two weeks ago that Cain and perry would falter and that Newt would be their next "darling"? Newt is now tied in the Polls with Romney....I'm tellin ya, they can't and won't get past his religion. They'd rather have a known liar, cheat and old crony in the White House than a mormon. If Newt keeps rising and garners their nomination, it'll be a kill for Obama in 2012....((just call me Mystic Meg))

Yeah,I was thinking about what you said when I was reading it.

[San Diego]

From CNN this morning...



Des Moines, Iowa (CNN) -- Representatives for leading social conservative groups in Iowa held a secret meeting Monday as part of an effort with one main goal: find and support a Republican presidential candidate who can stop Mitt Romney in Iowa.
The idea: avoid splintering the conservative vote in the state by rallying around one GOP rival who could win Iowa's Jan. 3 caucus and then challenge Romney in New Hampshire and the other early voting states.
Many social conservatives and other religious leaders in the state have openly labeled the former Massachusetts governor as a "flip-flopper," a criticism the campaign frequently beats back, while others have seen Romney's Mormon faith as an issue. And many of them have openly hoped for someone to emerge as a viable alternative to the former Massachusetts governor.
CNN reached out to the Romney campaign for reaction to the secret meeting and the overall anti-Romney effort.
"Gov. Romney is running a 50-state campaign. He's going to be competitive in Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina and all the other early states," said Romney campaign spokesman Ryan Williams. "He's reaching out to each and every voter."
One attendee at the meeting earlier this week told CNN they wanted "to see if they could come to a consensus of who they might endorse."
But the source was skeptical about the impact of Iowa social conservatives rallying behind one candidate.
"If you want to stop Romney you're probably going to have to have some organization [and] some money," the source said. "Somebody who's at 5% or 6% in the polls, and they endorse, I don't think that does any good."
Multiple sources have described to CNN details of the meeting and the general effort.
The meeting, the group's first, took place in a private office building in Des Moines on Monday. In attendance were representatives from the Iowa Faith and Freedom Coalition, The Family Leader, the group Iowa Right to Life, and a representative for the Iowa chapter of Concerned Women for America. Some pastors from prominent Iowa churches also attended the meeting.
The effort seems limited to Iowa, with no apparent outreach to similar groups in other states.
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While the concerns have been voiced before, what appears to be new is the meeting itself and organizers' hope for like-minded groups to come together against Romney, at least in Iowa.

[San Diego]

(CNN)-If half the public says they don't know very much about Mormonism and one-third of Republicans say the Mormon religion is not a Christian faith, how will GOP frontrunner Mitt Romney fare in his bid for the White House?

According to a new national survey, it won't affect Romney in a hypothetical general election faceoff with President Barack Obama, but his Mormon faith may have an impact on the former Massachusetts governor's chances in the GOP primaries and caucuses.

Romney is seeking the Republican presidential nomination for a second time and, as it turns out, opinions about his religion haven't changed since he ran the first time, in 2007.

A Pew Research Center poll released late Tuesday indicates that 52% of Americans said they knew "not very much" or nothing about the Mormon religion in 2007, when Romney sought the presidency for the first time, and 50% say the same now. The number who say Mormonism is a Christian religion-51%–is the same in 2011 as it was in 2007.

The poll also indicates that Republican voters who say Mormonism is not a Christian religion are less likely to support Romney for the GOP nomination. Romney's faith may have a bigger impact on his chances in the GOP primary than the general election.

When asked about their preference among eight Republican contenders, Romney edged out businessman Herman Cain for the top spot in the poll 23-22% among GOP registered voters. The one-percentage-point difference between the two candidates falls within the sampling error for the poll and indicates Cain and Romney are statistically tied among Republicans and GOP-leaning voters.

Among white evangelical Protestants, however, Cain has a nine percentage point lead over Romney-26% said they'd choose the former CEO of Godfather's Pizza in a GOP primary, 19% said they'd choose former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, and 17% said they'd support Romney, placing him third. Fifteen percent of evangelicals also said Romney's faith would make them less likely to support him.

When white Catholics and white "mainline" Protestants were questioned about their primary picks, Romney placed first, Cain second, and Gingrich third.

But in a hypothetical general election matchup between Romney and the incumbent President Barack Obama, 87% of Republicans and Republican-leaning voters would coalesce around Romney, a number that increases to 91% among white evangelical Protestants, the group that favored Cain for the nomination.

Tied with Catholics, the poll shows more white evangelical Protestants and Catholics back Romney over Obama in a general election than white "mainline" Protestants-84% said they'd choose Romney in the poll. So while he may have more competition in the GOP primary among evangelicals, if Romney advances to the general, the poll reveals he'd have their support.

The Pew Research Center poll was conducted from November 9-14 by telephone among 1,576 registered voters and 716 Republicans and Republican-leaning voters. The overall sampling error of the poll is plus or minus 2.5 percentage points. The sampling error for Republican and Republican-leaning voters is plus or minus 3.5 percentage points.

[rhondda rudie]

Amazing illustration of their bigotry Fi.It seems everyone thinks that the GOP's best chance of winning is Romney but they'd rather lose with another candidate to a man they seem to view as a cross between Joe Stalin and Osama Bin Laden.