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Old 13th December 2011, 07:37 PM
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Don't know if anyone is interested in the large hedron collider, and their search for the elusive 'higgs' particle.

Seems to me that physics is in a bit of a crisis.

We know that there's stuff we don't know. But there are a few things we thought we DO know, courtesy of Einstein and his theory of relativity.

And we also though that we understood how gravity works.

The billions of observable solar systems confirmed that, in order to create a solar system, gravity dictated that the outer planets must move more slowly than the inner planets. Any faster and the outer planets would break free of the gravitational pull of the central sun, and hurtle off into outer space.

But recently, with the development of super powerful telescopes launched into space, we are seeing further distances.

what has been discovered are solar systems where the outer planets are moving as quickly as the inner planets.

this new fact completely contradicts all the things we thought we knew about physics. So it's back to the drawing board and come up with a new theory, or find a way to make the theory fit the facts.

so the scientists have come up with some theories that will keep what we already know intact.

they decided that there must be some kind of mass in the black spaces in between the stars and planets that we are observing.

that would explain why the distant planet systems are behaving the way they do.

and this is where the 'higgs' particle comes into play [I think].

If they find it, then we can add that knowledge to the theories we already have.

If they don't, then we have to rip up everything we know about the physical universe and start all over again.
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Old 13th December 2011, 08:22 PM
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Oh yes jimmy ,in theory they could make a black hole here on earth ,are we talking dark matter jimmy ,
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We could be talking "what's it matter?"... we're all still here. Or are we?
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Often thought that when it comes to distant space that guesswork has been presented as fact.
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Old 13th December 2011, 11:24 PM
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Find it all quite mind boggling

just looking at the full moon in the sky is a reminder that we are just another tiny planet bouncing about in the sky and everything seems to be so insignificant... (it looks so science fiction film when you look at it, but is actually real)

Happy to be alive and aware

Would finding life on another planet not just be amazing?

If they did find life, would the people of Earth unite...or would they all just continue their power hungry lives?

I guess if humans have only been aroud for a few million years ...and plante understanding for a few thousand...our brains are really not big enough to take in something that has eveloved slowly over billions of years ...so everyone theorises ....
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i certainly do not believe that planet earth is the only planet out there that has life on it.

Earth is just a tiny spec trillions of times smaller than you could ever imagine... one single grain of sand on any large beach. Space is endless.
Each star is a sun, each sun has planets rotating around it in its own orbit of sorts... have a look on a clear night and you couldnt count the stars you see... then tell me we are alone.

As to what we know... we know didlly squat about nothing really except how to kill our fellow man.


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lol sorry JB dint mean to kill ur post


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it was the same at the end of the 19th century, people then thought they knew everything about physics, then some busy body had the audacity to come up with quantum physics and string theory... muliple universes...

the universe works in circles,
the earth spins giving us days and nights
the moon spins round the earth giving us weather
the earth spins round the sun tilting on its axis giving us seasons
the solar system spins round the galaxy and so on for infinaty probably
and with every positive you will get a negative.. north pole/south pole
matter/anti matter...
so with that in mind when u promote positive discrimination for 1 group
u will inadvertedly end up negatively discrimating against another group.
and thats how the universe works... simple really.
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