Prince Phillip,Give It A Rest

[rhondda rudie]

First of all I wish him a full and speedy recovery.

Got to say,though,I'm getting fed up with the tv news coverage.The fawning comments from presenters would give North Korean tv a run for their money.I'm actually embarrassed for them when I hear them.They talk of him like he's some sort of superman instead of a pampered aristocrat who hasn't done a real day's work for over 50 years.

There is still an inbuilt instinct for servility among many in this country which is holding our nation back.The sooner we become a meritocracy the better.

[Jimmy Jimmy]

Tom, the coverage is made all the worse as you look at highly skilled journalists padding out news channels with comments like ' we must just state at this time that we have no information from the Palace yet', it is quite ridiculous.

It was quite funny to hear the news on Xmas day when they were discussing Kate's first Xmas as a 'royal'. She was lucky though because Will would be on hand to share his experience and guide her through the various change of clothes for the day. Not sure if that included changing into tracksuit bottoms for the evening after too much Xmas pud - although that may only be a tradition undertaken at JJ Towers.

[anant_shah94]

Hiya Tom.

I'm a huge stickler for tradition. But, only if that tradition is worthy of carrying its title. Take cricket for example. The game is traditionally played in a gentlemanly manner and in good spirit. No matter how much sledging goes on, I'd love for that tradition to be upheld for many more years.

I'm torn on the royal family. It's certainly a testament to the traditions of this country, and many people say they are proud of the royal family and wish to preserve it. Does royalty belong in the present or in the history books?

Without wishing to state the obvious, the royal family used to rule over the country. However, as the role of parliament has grown over the last few hundred years, the Queen is now the only one with any power in this regard. She has the final say in whether any new laws are passed or not. Do we really need this? I think not. The Queen never says no. Because in order to reach her in the first place, it goes through an extremely thorough process (house of lords, commons etc).

I think the financial aspect is certainly worth considering. I don't know the figures off the top of my head, but it's obvious to say that the royal family attracts many many tourists and this all generates much money. How much does the royal family consume though, and is this more than is generated through tourism?

Slightly OT from your post, but relevant too I feel

[rhondda rudie]

Originally Posted by Jimmy Jimmy

Tom, the coverage is made all the worse as you look at highly skilled journalists padding out news channels with comments like ' we must just state at this time that we have no information from the Palace yet', it is quite ridiculous.

It was quite funny to hear the news on Xmas day when they were discussing Kate's first Xmas as a 'royal'. She was lucky though because Will would be on hand to share his experience and guide her through the various change of clothes for the day. Not sure if that included changing into tracksuit bottoms for the evening after too much Xmas pud - although that may only be a tradition undertaken at JJ Towers.

Well said JJ.There was also the ridiculous spectacle of presenters reporting live from outside the hospital in the early hours.What's the point of that?

On Christmas day the tv news was interviewing people who had arrived at the church, near Sandringham where the royal traditionally attend,before first light,just to see them walk in and then walk out again.They should be certified.

[rhondda rudie]

Originally Posted by anant_shah94

Hiya Tom.

I'm a huge stickler for tradition. But, only if that tradition is worthy of carrying its title. Take cricket for example. The game is traditionally played in a gentlemanly manner and in good spirit. No matter how much sledging goes on, I'd love for that tradition to be upheld for many more years.

I'm torn on the royal family. It's certainly a testament to the traditions of this country, and many people say they are proud of the royal family and wish to preserve it. Does royalty belong in the present or in the history books?

Without wishing to state the obvious, the royal family used to rule over the country. However, as the role of parliament has grown over the last few hundred years, the Queen is now the only one with any power in this regard. She has the final say in whether any new laws are passed or not. Do we really need this? I think not. The Queen never says no. Because in order to reach her in the first place, it goes through an extremely thorough process (house of lords, commons etc).

I think the financial aspect is certainly worth considering. I don't know the figures off the top of my head, but it's obvious to say that the royal family attracts many many tourists and this all generates much money. How much does the royal family consume though, and is this more than is generated through tourism?

Slightly OT from your post, but relevant too I feel

Hiya Anant.

I know we've discussed royalty before and disagreed but as always when debating with you if was a civilised disagreement.I would abolish the monarchy.I have no beef with the individuals within the family,just the concept of inherited position.

Would you agree that the reports about Prince Phillip have been far too reverential.

[anant_shah94]

Originally Posted by rhondda rudie

Hiya Anant.

I know we've discussed royalty before and disagreed but as always when debating with you if was a civilised disagreement.I would abolish the monarchy.I have no beef with the individuals within the family,just the concept of inherited position.

Would you agree that the reports about Prince Phillip have been far too reverential.

I'm not going to lie, I wasn't even aware that he was ill

Like I said, I'm torn on the royal family, but that's because I'm not aware on the facts. If, as many claim, it turns out that they are a massive financial boost to this country, then it may be worth keeping em around. This country needs a sugar daddy

But otherwise, kick them to the curb I say. It's foolish to preserve tradition for no purpose in my opinion. Often attempts to preserve tradition hinder progress, in this case it's political/social progress.

[FATHER TED2]

firstly get well soon to the blundering racist

it's all very negative, I know plenty of people who have been ill or gravely ill, they've never had any mention on tv or the press, and they do a hell of a lot more for society than the royals
but let's be positive about the royal family in a typical british outlook


a family of foreign immigrants made good

[rhondda rudie]

Originally Posted by FATHER TED2

firstly get well soon to the blundering racist

it's all very negative, I know plenty of people who have been ill or gravely ill, they've never had any mention on tv or the press, and they do a hell of a lot more for society than the royals
but let's be positive about the royal family in a typical british outlook


a family of foreign immigrants made good

Had to laugh this morning Eamonn.The reporter said the royals opened their present on Christmas Eve according to the German tradition.

[Saad]

Originally Posted by rhondda rudie

First of all I wish him a full and speedy recovery.

Got to say,though,I'm getting fed up with the tv news coverage.The fawning comments from presenters would give North Korean tv a run for their money.I'm actually embarrassed for them when I hear them.They talk of him like he's some sort of superman instead of a pampered aristocrat who hasn't done a real day's work for over 50 years.

There is still an inbuilt instinct for servility among many in this country which is holding our nation back.The sooner we become a meritocracy the better.

The Queen marries an asylum seeker who then thinks he can take advantage of the NHS for free

[JB40]

i dunno. They come over here with their taramasalata, smelling of garlic. steal white women, live off the state, drain our resources.

It's time we sent him back where he came from.