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Old 25th January 2012, 02:04 PM
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Old 25th January 2012, 02:42 PM
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Hi everyone,

I haven't followed the whole story so I can't directly comment on the case.
Regarding captaining, like you say Michele, the job comes with responsibilities. Particularly with regards to emergency procedures management. The Captain added value in those situations is the decision making. That is why he is payed more than the other crew members.
Ships or aeroplanes are complicated pieces of engineering that require a technical expertise to operate specially in an emergency situation. On top of the technical knowledge of his ship / plane, the Captain duty is to make sure he has an accurate situational awareness of what's happening so he can make decisions using the technical tools available and the crew. In order for that to happen efficiently, a clear chain of command is supposed to have been put together and trainned for with each crew member knowing his/her role. The Captain sits on top of that chain and has to apply his authority over the whole system. His obligations are formally described in regulatory / legal documents he is supposed to have demonstrated his knowledge of.
Then I can't see a Captain being concretely able to manage a rescue procedure from outside his ship... In that sense I suppose he has failed to comply with his duties.
But again I have not followed the story, and these kind of situations involve so many factors that it is always difficult to make an opinion until all the circumstances are clarified.

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Old 25th January 2012, 02:43 PM
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As a former sailor, I would obey all orders from our ships Captain. He is the man in charge. There was an old saying that a "Captain must go down with his ship". Even though I dont believe that a Captain should die on a sinking ship, he does have the obligation of caring for all passengers and crew members. It was his responsibility, it is what he was trained for, it is what he was paid to do. He showed he was irresponsible by takin the ship too close to land to "Show Off" to his friends. He should be tried through the courts, but to me he showed cowardice, and did not face his fear. He was not a good leader which all Captains should be.

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Old 25th January 2012, 11:48 PM
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The captain usually ends up in the last lifeboat, NOT the FIRST.

After watching the vid of the lady, telling them all to walk the lobbys or go back to their rooms it's a just a blackout blah blah....yeah she got that right.....Then the arguement with the captain & rescue teams, Where are you captain mmm i'm just arriving on dry land going off to ring my mum, tally ho, nah he needs the book throwing at him
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Old 26th January 2012, 05:18 AM
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As a former sailor, I would obey all orders from our ships Captain. He is the man in charge. There was an old saying that a "Captain must go down with his ship". Even though I dont believe that a Captain should die on a sinking ship, he does have the obligation of caring for all passengers and crew members. It was his responsibility, it is what he was trained for, it is what he was paid to do. He showed he was irresponsible by takin the ship too close to land to "Show Off" to his friends. He should be tried through the courts, but to me he showed cowardice, and did not face his fear. He was not a good leader which all Captains should be.

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What you said Steve....I still think the corporation failed to recognize that the man had (has) issues. He shoud never have made it through the screening process that it takes to be captain. I guess the rest will come out and we'll continue to interpret it however we like.
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Old 26th January 2012, 03:00 PM
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It will be interesting to see how the courts handle this case.

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Old 26th January 2012, 08:43 PM
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So not all in total disagreement....

I agree, it happens sometimes... sad fact that many get jobs because of how they look, who they are related to... still think it seems mad to accuse him of staying alive...agree with k maker (heloo BTW) - seems archaic
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Old 27th January 2012, 04:59 PM
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Sea captain's are like doctors...they have a code of ethics they conform too & that is to put other people's lives before their own.They,also, know this when they agree to take the job...so at the end of the day the selfish bastard didn't do his job & therefore should be duly punished.I,m sure that his family knew this too .
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